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A writing group that I hang out with posted an article by an atheist, and ... I guess it could have been worse.
The article talks about dismissing Islamic terrorism by talking about "Christian violence." Of course, it brings up the crusades. And the myth of atheists who are perfectly harmless.
It ALSO points out that Christian "violence" in the past hundred years is virtually non-existent. He even notes that the abortionists killed since Roe vs Wade is in the single digits -- like I did.
Half-right is better than nothing.
Sigh. Some of these are so old I want to bash my brains out.
If we're talking about "violent" examples, then the examples of militant / violent behavior are:
- Islam: ISIS / jihad.
- Atheism: The Soviets.
- Christianity: The Crusades.
Then there are the big bad Crusades. Oooooo.... Yes, it was religious... And a little practical. Very little. Remember, the nobles of Europe bankrupted themselves in an effort to retake the Holy Lands, so it wasn't about profit. The mandate was to clear out the Holy Lands. Period. Sacking Constantinople, et al, were the people who slipped the leash.
In the First Crusade, the Crusaders were horrified to find that the Muslims didn't keep to their word, didn't show mercy to prisoners, and didn't consider any action against non-Muslims to be immoral. If all things are equal, if the Crusaders were just out for blood, why did they find this so surprising? That, right there, is a telling example of the difference.
Why not the Inquisition? First, there were two. Most people think of the Spanish Inquisition, not the version in Rome, which only ever comes up in the mind of an idiot if talking about Galileo.
As with the the Spanish Inquisition, if it was just so EEVVVIIILLL, why did people deliberately commit religious crimes to get their case transferred to that bastion of cruelty? Yeah. Funny that. The Inquisition jails were so much better, people faced with accusations of secular crimes would utter blasphemous and heretical statements in the secular court, so that they would then be transferred to the ecclesiastical edition.
The Spanish Inquisition even asked the accused for a list of their enemies in order to strike the witness list of enemies. Yup, the Spanish Inquisition took the radical step of taking the accuser's gain into account. The Inquisitiors took a very dim view at false statements. In fact, those who made false statements could be found by the court as themselves committing a crime.
Oh, yes, the Inquisition lasted for 300 years, and may have killed 4,000 people. Why may have? Because they counted people burned in effigy as executed. Yup. Welcome to the Catholic church. At worst, it killed 14 people a year on average. The low number, 2,000, means only 7 people a year. That's less than the average spy count during the Cold War.
Christianity does not, and has never, advocated violence. I do, but I'm possibly insane, a sociopath, or with anger management issues, depending on who you talk to. Then again, I have papers to prove I'm sane. Muahahahaahah.
I'd still argue that assassination can be a defensive measure when it prevents unnecessary collateral damage. Killing Hitler would have served the interests of justice far more so than what actually happened.Atheist wars against religion have claimed far more lives than those wars "of" religion. Look it up. Vox Day, The Irrational Atheist, broke it down by wars. Richard Dawkins is just a schmuck. And atheists still have terrorists, just ask the Oslo Bomber. Communism alone butchered 100,000,000 people. Yes, you read that right, one hundred million people.
It's the Principle of Double Effect, usually mistranslated as "choosing the lesser of two evils." Instead, you choose the greater of two GOODS. The lesser evil is not always the one that brings about the greater good. (This is a concept that non-fluffy parents know well. A little discipline is better than none at all.)
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Yes, I know the blog was late this week, but I did four blog posts last week, and I was sick as a dog, and I'm not 100% recovered. So, back off.
The Soviets, Khmer Rouge, North Korea, Red China, the National Socialist Party.
ReplyDeleteThat was the must frustrating aspect of the New Atheist crusade of the last decade. Not a single one of them seemed to remember much of the 20th century at all where it was their philosophy that caused the most death and destruction of any ideology. Yet they feel they should go ahead and attack Christians for radical Muslims causing a horrific terrorist attack.
Now they're doing it again with ISIS, not realizing the patently moronic claim of equating a radical Muslim force with the Crusades. Of course, you would have to know something about history beyond what that comedian said on that show last night.
Unfortunately, nowadays that's a tall order.
Excellent blog post. I'm saving the link in my reading list, should I need to refer others to it during hackneyed debates.
ReplyDeleteY'know, on a related note, the Bible has more evidence of its validity than some other texts from antiquity, and yet it, like its readers, is often called into question. The same folks who denigrate the integrity of Scripture are the same folks who build entire theories and histories out of scraps of ephemera found at archeological sites. Can anyone say "agenda"?
But I digress.
One wonders if people today have forgotten that we didn't invent "spin". It's been around for millennia. What some experts/historians/archeologists/average Joes take for gospel -- I mean, historical fact -- should be reexamined.